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Spoilt RaceCarve 179cm (Italy) 2006-2007

Model | Length | Dimensions | Radius at Length | Model Year:

Spoilt RaceCarve "Limited Edition"179cm - 116-66-101 (17.5m at 179cm) 2006-2007

 

Manufacturer Info:

Spoilt Skis (Alassio, Italy)
SPOILT s.r.l.
Via privata Cazzulini 41
17021 Alassio (sv)
Italy

info@spoiltski.com

Usage Class: (your idea - all-mountain, race, carver, SX, big moutain, freeride...etc.)

"Recreational " Expert Race Carver....
Many Europeans consider "racecarve" differently than in the U.S. - I was told by the guys at Spoilt that a "racecarve" is essentially ..."an allrounder for the every day skiing trips"..., rather than a "racing ski" detuned or perhaps given a non-FIS (smaller) radius

Your Rating (with comments):(1="get me off these things"->10="I have to own a pair")

8

Summary:

Beautifully smooth and silky all-mountain expert carver for groomed surfaces that needs to get up to speed to get “turned-on” (raceplate probably causes much of this). Once turned-on, she becomes a hypnotically elegant ride requiring very little muscle or vigilance from the pilot. Not a race ski, but puts down serious arcs with very little pressure. Great for all-day, all-mountain ripping without tiring you out. Definite personality and grace. No upper speed limit, and no change in personality as you search for that upper speed limit. Unassuming performance until you notice people looking down at you from the lift going “Whoa…look at those arcs…what is he skiing on.!?”

Ski Designer (if known):

Sandro Mazzoni

Technical Ski Data (if known):

Structure: sandwich, ABS sidewall, triaxial laminate Core: vertically laminated wood Edge: Racing edge 48 HRC Base: PTEX 4000 graphite stone grinding finish Details: tip guard and tail guard in titanal Plates: VIST SPEEDLOCK (fully adjustable to meet the individual skiers’ needs) Bindings: VIST Colors: Black or your choice (L.E. version) Sidecut: Tip 116 mm, waist 66 mm, tail 101 mm Lengh: 1740 mm (174) – 1790 mm (179) Edge length: 1540 mm (174) – 1590 mm (179) Sidecut radius 17000 mm (174) – 17500 mm (179)[/

Pre-Skiing Impression:

A soft-flex (for a “RaceCarve” ski), traditional wood-core sandwich construction ski with a VIST TT Pro Race plate. Excellent fit-and-finish. Very nice workmanship. Cool black satin, fish-scale texture topsheet. Damp feel by hand tests. Exact dimensions as my current racecarve ski (’05-’06 Nordica SpeedMachine 16.1 178cm), so the geometry should be excellent and prove to be a good comparison test. The soft flex pattern with plate should be excellent for all conditions, good grip on hard snow due to the VIST plate. Probably less “race-oriented” than my SpeedMachine, but better in softer snow or broken-surface conditions.

Test Conditions:

 Squeeky-cold, dry New England hardpack, fresh packed powder, spring-like cupcake frosting surfaces. 12 degrees F to 50 degrees F.

Test Results:

My initial turns discovered these skis have two pronounced elements to their performance...moreso than some other skis. One is what I call the “edging angle” and the other is what I call “Speed-dependent radius”. If you get the right combination of both…you suddenly have a wonderful ride with no upper speed limit. Trying to over-angle the ski at slow speeds results in a wash-out of the forebody or tail (depending on your stance and weighting). This is typical of any ski, but due to the soft nature of this ski’s flex pattern, more pronounced since either the forebody or tail would wash…but not both. A stiffer ski (like a pure race skis) simply washes-out entirely fore and aft until you get a grip on it. Once you reach 15 or 20 mph, experimenting with various edge angles and turn radii results in the ski suddenly falling effortlessly into its “groove”. Below the “engagement speed”, there is no “groove”, simply a normal skidding set of turns like any ski. Get it into its “zone”…and Oh Boy….I have fallen in Love with this mysterious Italian. This ski loves to be ridden in its optimal radius at its optimal speed and once in its “zone”, becomes effortless and silky. In the “zone”, this ski is infallible and no terrain irregularities can cause it to deviate from your specified course. Never difficult to turn. Never tiring. Never demanding. No hint of “race ski” vigilance required. Just ride it as it arcs from left to right. Turn response is excellent. You can change direction instantly at will without any protest. Don’t push it. Just roll it over, pressure it and ride the rail. It never demands to be “on-edge” all the time like some race-carve skis. Perfectly happy to drift and wash itself through a turn, or roll it onto its optimal angle and hook-up a perfect carved arc with any degree of pressure you wish. No hint of any nervousness or twitching at warp-speeds (especially notable for such an easy-to-turn ski), it just lays securely on the snow waiting for your next command. You can ski this one all day and not get tired, but still lay down some deep carving trenches on the trail you can admire going up the lift. I would say this ski (in its default construction – you can get it custom built if you wish) is more oriented toward the “all mountain expert carver” rather than “race-carver”. When compared to my Nordica SpeedMachine 16.1, the Spoilt RaceCarve is softer, more forgiving and definitely more versatile for all-day, any terrain. The SpeedMachines would be better in a racecourse, but more tiring and less friendly when the surface isn’t groomed hardpack. At warp-speed, if I jam on the SpeedMachines hard to change direction, I could get into trouble. On the Spoilt RaceCarves, nothing bad could happen…I would just change direction securely without any risk of “explosion”. No danger, just obedience. (Although I love the explosions a few times a day on a race-type ski) I love the unique personality of this ski and its feel under my feet. Very, very fast bases. Superb ski, considering it was built by a couple guys in a tiny shop. Very cool., and definitely a conversation-starter. Everyone wanted to know about them and try them!

Analogies: (this ski is like...)

More Alfa-Romeo than Lamborghini.

After Skiing These, I Want To...

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Try them in a 174cm length.
  • Try them with another sheet of metal in the sandwich.
  • Try adjusting the VIST mounting points one notch forward and one notch backward for fun.
  • Go to Italy and meet the Mazzoni brothers.
  • Own a pair with my own graphics.

    Self-Description of Skiing Style, Ability, Experience, Preferences (be honest):

    Expert groomed-surface carver, "old-style" race inspired, "foot steerer" with fairly sensitive edging feel. Loves to hold long arcs with lots of pressure on the downhill ski (you know the type),  but also loves the feel of both skis on-edge leaving tiny railroad track edge tracks. Not an instructor, but 10 year coach for youth race team in New England (bulletproof is the norm).

    Misc Info:

    (quoted from their website at http://www.spoiltski.com)

    The SPOILT skis collections are set in three lines:


    • PROTO
    • LIMITED EDITION
    • SPOILT

    PROTO
    The Proto line, entirely custom built, was created to satisfy the most demanding customer. In order to meet the individual requirements of each customer e.g. ski’s length, edge’s length, sidecut, radius profile, flexes and consequently all the materials, different combinations of laminated woods, fibers and their own layout. Also to obtain a unique ski it is possible to personalize the graphic and the design as per the customer’s own tastes.
    The time of delivery is considerably long (about 6 months), due to the construction of the templates and the molds.

    LIMITED EDITION
    The Limited Edition line, entirely custom built, in the same way as the SPOILT line is constructed only with top materials and comes directly from our prototypes, has predefined measurements (effective length and waist, sidecut, etc) and also available with the flex and the graphic personalized.
    The time of delivery is between 2 and 3 weeks.

    SPOILT
    The SPOILT line is our ready to go version, a small assembly also produced with top materials available in the market. These skis are based from our experience with our prototypes tested all over the Alps.
    Available on order from our dealers (see contacts).
    The time of delivery is approximately of 6 or 7 days.

     

     

     

     

  • By: e.edelstein  Posted: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:46:15 PM

    From Chris Slade of Northern Ski Works (http://www.northernski.com) 
    (no e-mail address) - Posted by Eric Edelstein since "Slado" has no computer...

    Date of Test: - February 20, 2007

    Manufacturer | Model | Length | Dimensions | Radius at Length | Model Year:

    2006-2007 Spoilt RaceCarve 179cm

    Your Rating (with comments): (1="get me off these things"->10="I have to own a pair")

    8

    Test Conditions:

    Killington, Vermont, USA - Packed Powder

    Test Results:

    This ski felt VERY solid under foot. It has superior edge hold. I was surprised at its ability to complete short swing turns, considering the VIST plate mounted under the binding.

    The ski performed well in the soft bumps. Snow conditions were very soft, packed powder.

    My feeling is the ski would excel on hard pack, racecourse conditions.

    Really liked the looks of the top sheet…its cool. Top sheet held up well when my young niece ran over it!

     

    Self-Description of Skiing Style, Ability, Experience, Preferences (be honest)

    Expert

     

     

    By: eedelstein  Posted: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:44:04 PM

    Spoilt Race Carve Comments:

    I took a bunch of runs on the Spoilt Race Carve at Killington on groomed changeable snow conditions and found it to be a great pair of skis.

    The first few turns were a little dicey. It didn't seem to want to behave at the slower speeds and actually felt a little clunky edge to edge at slower startup speeds. Once it got up to its cruising speed, everything changed and its personality began to show. Very responsive edge to edge, very smooth in the transitions turn to turn. The faster you went, the better it got,well like an Italian sports car(excuse the pun!) Totally safe feeling at speed, comfortable and predictable. It never rocked you out of the turns but never left you feeling like you were hanging on for dear life. Great control and responsiveness at  cruising speed,would not be pushed out of its turn radii, would not wash out of turns,stuck to its radii from start to finish. Left great railroad tracks! The construction is dead on. Nothing wrong with the layup of this ski. Only draw back is the slow response at slower speeds. Easy to fix this,just point them down the hill until you find that speed! Great cosmetics, and dimpled topskin. Came with a VIST race plate and bindings. On a scale of 1 -10, give this ski a 9. I would feel better about these skis if didn't feel so weird getting up to cruising altitude. This takes away from that important first impression. Otherwise, an excellent ride to add to your quiver!        

    By: tfavro  Posted: Saturday, March 24, 2007 3:06:11 AM

    SPOILT Race Carve review:

    I took a couple of runs on these at Suicide 6, groomed packed powder.   My usual ride is a pair of 185cm Nordica K21 GS, fast and super-obedient, but I like a shorter radius ski too.  Must agree with tfavro that the slow speed feel, or lack thereof, came as a surprise.  Kind of like a rental ski, yikes.  I'm not sure if that's why I was hesitant to bring them up to full speed for a test.  At slower cruising, I did get some good carves in; there is potential.  The "snap" that one might expect from a ski named "race carve" was not there, so I would like to try a beefed-up version with the extra layer on metal before giving my "final rating", and it's nice this manufacturer can comply if requested!!!  As tested, I thought they were a nice ski for an adventurous intermediate skier who wants to dabble in some fun carving.  At the same time, riding them out to return to the lift, they were a bit skittery, which might offend the intermediate?  And an advanced skier will be looking for more in sheer performance, thus my rating is a 5+.  Kudos for custom graphics and construction options.   After reading the reviews, and since I took only 2 runs, I'm compelled to test them again... 

    By: John F.  Posted: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:41:56 AM

    I got out on the Spoilt RaceCarves again on a bluebird spring corn day before the Beast of The East closed...comparing skis again with several other skiers and different pairs of skis, and these boards came back like a great freind...excellent handling, no upper speed limit and really, really nice feel underfoot..even in the bottomless corn.  Impressive ski, can't wait to get on some more skis made by the Mazzoni brothers in Alassio, Italy. Nice work. I'm keeping these skis.

    By: e.edelstein  Posted: Thursday, May 3, 2007 4:41:39 PM

    This was a very suprising ski for me..... it felt like one of my old friends & fav. skis: The Fischer WC RC only better!!!   Now I find the WC RC to be one of the greatest ski of the "modern era" , so how is the Spoilt RaceCarve "Limited Edition"179cm

     Better?

    1) flex was like butter, did not have to fight the ski at all

    2) wild topsheet

    3) shovels were more forgiving & allowed carving or blasting though crud

     

     on the scale i would rate these 9 of 10.  if i were to purchased a pair i would go longer....they did ski a little short, more like a 170 cm.  I would like to see how the 186 or even a 189 felt.  On the construction....well they were just a perfect.  Nice vertical sides, clean line, fast bases.  

     I will be suprised if I don't see a few more pairs floating around in 08.  in a time when fat & 120 mm is trendy, even if only functional in the liftline,  it is refreshing to see a quality ski that improves your skiing & is wildy cool.

     Thanks again guys!

     

     

     

    By: iriponsnow  Posted: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:52:38 PM

    This ski is all but the same as the Hart Phoenix, I am 99.94% sure these are hand built by the same person. Having skied this ski and the Phoenix back to back with and without the Vist plate, there is no denying that the Vist supercharges this ski.

    By: Philpug  Posted: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:05:11 PM

    Having skied both the Spoilt & the Hart, I would have to agree that they are the same ski.  I found this to be one of the best exotics that I have tested & the one w/ the broadest consumer appeal.  You reall can't go wrong w/ this one.

     I would like to see the 190 version w/ a Vist plate

     

     Later!

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